Posts by Juan Viejo2

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Latest Leaked BOE letter to Elders Oct. 4th

by Watchtower-Free in

october 4, 2015. to all congregations.

re: new provisions announced atannual meeting.

dear brothers:.

Juan Viejo2

A friendly correspondent called me to state that he called the NY HQ late last week asking about the letter and got a response that no one there knew of any such letter and that there were definitely no plans afoot to change meetings or magazine printing schedules. He was told that nothing like that would be likely. He wondered it anyone had seen the actual letter, or was only the unconfirmed draft version floating around.

I told him that I believed the draft version of the letter was true, but likely being from a draft some wording could change or paragraphs dropped.

Then today the Watchtower foolishly issued a DMCA takedown of the draft letter from Cedars' JWSurvey.org website. By their own actions, they confirmed the veracity of the letter. By the weekend, every JW in the world will know that the changes described in the leaked '"draft of the BOE letter" were accurately portrayed.

The Watchtower must be led by total idiots. Both deny and then call for a DMCA takedown of a letter that will have worldwide distribution in just days? What were they thinking? But for the rest of us who have seen the draft and accepted it as basically accurate, this is just another confirmation that Watchtower leaders haven't a clue about how to handle their leaky operations.

Protecting their copyrights? Bullshit! They are protecting their asses but doing a piss poor job of it.

JV

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PDF of Advice for Kingdom Publishers (1939)

by MrMonroe in

i'm hoping to obtain a copy of the 1939 booklet advice for kingdom publishers.

it's a 16-page booklet that was written, i understand, to help us publishers as they embarked on the very vigorous witnessing campaigns that were largely aimed at provoking police and governments to take action against them.

i'm particularly interested in what specific advice they were given about creating or avoiding situations likely to result in their arrest.

Juan Viejo2

This document was recently added to Barbara Anderson's website...

http://watchtowerdocuments.org/watchtower-document-downloads-1920-1949/

JV

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PDF of Advice for Kingdom Publishers (1939)

by MrMonroe in

i'm hoping to obtain a copy of the 1939 booklet advice for kingdom publishers.

it's a 16-page booklet that was written, i understand, to help us publishers as they embarked on the very vigorous witnessing campaigns that were largely aimed at provoking police and governments to take action against them.

i'm particularly interested in what specific advice they were given about creating or avoiding situations likely to result in their arrest.

Juan Viejo2

PM Barney - he's got the file and can email it to you.

StayedAliveAfter75

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2014 Watchtower CD Library

by Calebs Airplane in

anyone have a good link to a 2014 watchtower cd library?

(i'll settle for 2013 link also).

i've googled it and have only come up with non-working links or links that fail to load completely.. please and thank you.

Juan Viejo2

V Idiot - Yes, thank you. All of my copies are on CDs too, but I don't have the actual 2013/2014 WT diskettes. So I was just wondering if they had upgraded.

JV

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The best surgery for men, Hernia surgery.

by James Mixon in

jw
friends

i had one two weeks ago, i'm fine.

but how nice it was not to lift anything over.

10 pounds.

Juan Viejo2

I had two hernia operations on the same side. The first one was a straight stitch-up. After about five years, the damn thing popped out again. Went to a different doctor (different cities and insurance plans). He did a nice job and used the mesh. Unfortunately, I found out that the mesh he used is made by the same company that is paying for all those lawsuits - but they are specifically for women, except in extreme cases. The problem is that I have to prove that my doctor used that specific mesh, that specific application, etc.

Men are treated a bit differently. If you are a couch potato, or retired and do not hold regular employment, etc. then there are a lot of hoops you have to jump through. Is it causing me pain? No. Is it restricting my sexual activity? What's that? Do I have a job or participate in an activity that requires climbing, lifting or stair climbing. No.

I'm 72, retired - sit in front of a computer 2/3 of my time and a TV the rest. The only real exercise I get is when the Oregon football team scores a touchdown and I jump up and down acting like a fool for 5 minutes. The only thing I lift frequently is my coffee mug and my wine glass.

BTW - when they do that operation you have an excuse to not do chores for at least a week - so it's not all bad.

JV

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2014 Watchtower CD Library

by Calebs Airplane in

anyone have a good link to a 2014 watchtower cd library?

(i'll settle for 2013 link also).

i've googled it and have only come up with non-working links or links that fail to load completely.. please and thank you.

Juan Viejo2

Does anyone know if they are still using CDs or are they now using DVDs?

JV

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Do US JWs Still Knock on Doors?

by cultBgone in

this may sound like a silly question, but do jws even door-knock any more?

the few i know only speak of "manning the cart" at some public location, and because they get defensive if i even ask an innocent question like this i thought i'd ask it on the forum.

thanks!.

Juan Viejo2

My house is obviously marked. My office is in the front with a big picture window. They can see me sitting at my desk and still just pass me by. But they only hit this neighborhood about once a year - and on Memorial week and if there is a district assembly being held at the fairgrounds.

JV

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Something odd about how Watchtower portrays prayer versus how JWs actually pray.

by Island Man in

watchtower literature often depicts individuals praying with their hands clasped together or kneeling on the ground in their bedroom.. but i don't recall ever seeing a jw praying like that.

i have never seen a jw praying in a kneeling position or with hands clasped together.

have you?.

Juan Viejo2

Jehovah's Witnesses have always (at least since the 1950s) simply stood up or stayed seated and bowed their heads and closed their eyes (except those who are peeking around looking to see who just farted). Usually at the end a few will say "amen" after the old guy with the accent who just said the prayer for the past 10 minutes finally shuts up.

The question is this: How many times a night do you have to hear elders thank Jehovah for all the blessings when no one has been particularly blessed, for all the wonderful new information when they have just heard the same crap over and over again, and for blessing and protection for the governing body when they've got it pretty good already?

And Memorials... Does the Bible really require a prayer before the meeting, after the meeting, over the crackers and over the wine? Is that really necessary? And do they really have to pass it down every row each time when the attendants can see that no one in that row partook of the first choice? The whole thing is a farce, and yet every year every Jehovah's Witness, even the faders and the barely hangers-on feel like they have to go and sit through the show that is no show.

JV

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How did you feel when "your book" was discontinued?

by OverlappingGeneralizations in

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friends

i didn't know where to posts this, i hope "friends" is ok-.

how did you feel when the book you studied in was deemed "discontinued"?

for instance, when i was studying, i studied the knowledge book.

Juan Viejo2

How far they have come since I studied "Let God Be True" and "The Truth Shall Set You Free..."

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[Day 7 - 5/8]The Royal Commissions investigation of child sexual abuse within Jehovah’s Witnesses. + VIDEO

by C0ntr013r in

i give you day 7 of the royal commissions proceedings:.

part 1 has been uploaded and part 2 and 3 will soon be available.. part 1:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk0lgqedy_i.

Juan Viejo2

C0ntr013r - you did a very nice job on all your video captures. Your streams seems to be better than those I watched and captured. Do you live in Australia perhaps?

I noticed while capturing the stream that it seemed that there may have been some multiple pathways. I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like that except when watching a baseball game and flipping back and forth between regular vs HiDef channels. I'll sometimes notice as much as 30 seconds delay between them.

I recorded the video on my primary computer (Windows 7 - now Windows 10) desktop it is hardwired to the router. I also recorded on my laptop, same router, but WiFi channel. The delay between the two was significant even thought source should have been the same. Sometimes the laptop would be ahead and other times behind the desktop.

I also watched the hearings on my smartphone. It too was WiFi - from the same router - and it too was out of time with the other two computers, sometimes by well over a minute. When I switched from WiFi to 4G, it would usually line up with one or the other computers, but only off one way or the other by a smidgeon.

I've done a lot of screen capture work and I know that cable TV and Internet timing is off significantly - but they are both coming from different sources. In this case the source was assumed to be the main computer or streaming system at the Commission HQ.

Even then, there were several times on a couple of days when they clearly had some transmission difficulties. The good news is that the official transcripts are available as are the exhibits. What more can we ask for?